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		<title>By: Geoff K</title>
		<link>http://www.onpdx.com/books/wordsuck/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s definitely a way to balance &quot;A-List&quot; authors and lesser known but buzzworthy writers.  It was just clear this year that the festival lost track of that balance.

Shannon was in the Stumptown Comic area which I think was one of the more successful areas of the show. I really liked his drinking fish shirt (almost picked it up myself). 

I missed seeing Monica Drake, which I think is wildly talented because there was no clear schedule posted about who would be where, when. I mean how hard is it to put the appearance information on the author&#039;s individual pages?

But thanks for your comments. It&#039;s a shame it wasn&#039;t easier to see Hodgeman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s definitely a way to balance &#034;A-List&#034; authors and lesser known but buzzworthy writers.  It was just clear this year that the festival lost track of that balance.</p>
<p>Shannon was in the Stumptown Comic area which I think was one of the more successful areas of the show. I really liked his drinking fish shirt (almost picked it up myself). </p>
<p>I missed seeing Monica Drake, which I think is wildly talented because there was no clear schedule posted about who would be where, when. I mean how hard is it to put the appearance information on the author&#039;s individual pages?</p>
<p>But thanks for your comments. It&#039;s a shame it wasn&#039;t easier to see Hodgeman!</p>
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		<title>By: nevafeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>nevafeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about the authors this year being &quot;second-tier&quot;, but I was pleased to see Aimee Bender, Willy Vlautin, Charles Cross, and Lynda Barry on the list. 

And the John Hodgeman performance was impossible to watch because of the crowd.  I was standing at the back of the rows of chairs and every time I slightly inched backward, I had someone from Workstock telling me not to block the aisle.

That&#039;s not to say I had a horrible time---I was able to talk to some cool local writers and artists (Shannon Wheeler and Megan Clark) as well as pick up information from Indigo Press and the Independent Publishing Resource Center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about the authors this year being &#034;second-tier&#034;, but I was pleased to see Aimee Bender, Willy Vlautin, Charles Cross, and Lynda Barry on the list. </p>
<p>And the John Hodgeman performance was impossible to watch because of the crowd.  I was standing at the back of the rows of chairs and every time I slightly inched backward, I had someone from Workstock telling me not to block the aisle.</p>
<p>That&#039;s not to say I had a horrible time&#8212;I was able to talk to some cool local writers and artists (Shannon Wheeler and Megan Clark) as well as pick up information from Indigo Press and the Independent Publishing Resource Center.</p>
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		<title>By: Portland is a small town.</title>
		<link>http://www.onpdx.com/books/wordsuck/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Portland is a small town.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to say too (can&#039;t exactly say this stuff on my own blog) that if writers are going to charge, then they ought to at least be somewhat entertaining. I wouldn&#039;t pay to see 99% of the authors I&#039;ve seen read. 

Discounting books is a tragedy in our culture. In some countries in Europe, it&#039;s actually illegal. 

I have no idea why we all must get every single thing as cheaply as possible. When you think about movies they&#039;re two hours and cost $9 in many places. So that&#039;s $4.50 an hour (about). A trade paperback will run you $13. How many hours do you spend with that? It&#039;s total lunacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to say too (can&#039;t exactly say this stuff on my own blog) that if writers are going to charge, then they ought to at least be somewhat entertaining. I wouldn&#039;t pay to see 99% of the authors I&#039;ve seen read. </p>
<p>Discounting books is a tragedy in our culture. In some countries in Europe, it&#039;s actually illegal. </p>
<p>I have no idea why we all must get every single thing as cheaply as possible. When you think about movies they&#039;re two hours and cost $9 in many places. So that&#039;s $4.50 an hour (about). A trade paperback will run you $13. How many hours do you spend with that? It&#039;s total lunacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t recall where I read it, but there was a commentary about the book industry and how rampant discounting has created an environment where the consumer&#039;s expectations are that you simply don&#039;t pay the cover price of a book.

This of course leads to a whole host of issues (including publishers inflating book prices to adjust for discounting) and as you mentioned the total discounting of the value of writers and the words they write.

I&#039;m very interested to see how the economy of words changes with the adoption of things like Kindle and other non paper based book delivery systems...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t recall where I read it, but there was a commentary about the book industry and how rampant discounting has created an environment where the consumer&#039;s expectations are that you simply don&#039;t pay the cover price of a book.</p>
<p>This of course leads to a whole host of issues (including publishers inflating book prices to adjust for discounting) and as you mentioned the total discounting of the value of writers and the words they write.</p>
<p>I&#039;m very interested to see how the economy of words changes with the adoption of things like Kindle and other non paper based book delivery systems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Portland is a small town.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portland is a small town.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think Powell&#039;s ought to charge to see authors read. Just like you pay to see a band, or a movie. Too often people attend reading and never buy the book, or they go buy it on Amazon due to the deep discount. No skin of the author&#039;s nose...until indie bookstores start dropping like flies and then suddenly (like in Southern California) there are few indie bookstores at which authors can read. The problem with the chain bookstores is that they buy for all of their stores, so if the main buyer doesn&#039;t like your book, then your book won&#039;t be at the BN or Borders near your house or where your book was set, as was the case with one of my hardcovers. 

As for Powell&#039;s the problems with that store run very deep. The don&#039;t pay their employees anything near a living wage, the stores themselves are dirty and disorganized. The staff reflects these qualities and their ridiculous pay doesn&#039;t engender them to do much more than surf the internet all day long. Add to that the fact that Powell&#039;s has the same effect on indie bookstores in Portland as chains do elsewhere.

All that being said, authors should charge to give a reading. I don&#039;t understand why books, authors, indie bookstores are perceived as something that should be cheap or free. It&#039;s remarkable to me that in Portland, writers are charity cases. They see themselves as worth not much more than the $50 or so they get paid to write for the local presses or lit mags. I get paid $1 per word and when I&#039;ve told PDX writers that, I&#039;ve had reactions like &quot;How could you ask someone to pay you that?&quot; Excuse me? 

Words are a commodity, just like a logo design or a cup of coffee. It&#039;s about time we start treating them as such. All of us, readers and writers alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think Powell&#039;s ought to charge to see authors read. Just like you pay to see a band, or a movie. Too often people attend reading and never buy the book, or they go buy it on Amazon due to the deep discount. No skin of the author&#039;s nose&#8230;until indie bookstores start dropping like flies and then suddenly (like in Southern California) there are few indie bookstores at which authors can read. The problem with the chain bookstores is that they buy for all of their stores, so if the main buyer doesn&#039;t like your book, then your book won&#039;t be at the BN or Borders near your house or where your book was set, as was the case with one of my hardcovers. </p>
<p>As for Powell&#039;s the problems with that store run very deep. The don&#039;t pay their employees anything near a living wage, the stores themselves are dirty and disorganized. The staff reflects these qualities and their ridiculous pay doesn&#039;t engender them to do much more than surf the internet all day long. Add to that the fact that Powell&#039;s has the same effect on indie bookstores in Portland as chains do elsewhere.</p>
<p>All that being said, authors should charge to give a reading. I don&#039;t understand why books, authors, indie bookstores are perceived as something that should be cheap or free. It&#039;s remarkable to me that in Portland, writers are charity cases. They see themselves as worth not much more than the $50 or so they get paid to write for the local presses or lit mags. I get paid $1 per word and when I&#039;ve told PDX writers that, I&#039;ve had reactions like &#034;How could you ask someone to pay you that?&#034; Excuse me? </p>
<p>Words are a commodity, just like a logo design or a cup of coffee. It&#039;s about time we start treating them as such. All of us, readers and writers alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff K</title>
		<link>http://www.onpdx.com/books/wordsuck/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your behind the scenes insights. The ultimately frustrating thing is that a large scale book festival could be a real hit in Portland, but I don&#039;t think the way that Wordstock is going that it will fulfill that promise.  The current show seems to have too many 800lb gorillas with Widen + Kennedy, Powell&#039;s and Target all seeming to hold a different piece of the reigns of the show.  I also get the impression that Powell&#039;s isn&#039;t necessarily interested in seeing Wordstock take off, as in some way it competes with their own efforts which they do year round. 

The trend with Powells has been towards big author events where you have to buy a full price hard cover book to be able to hear an author read.  I&#039;ve never paid to hear an author read and never plan to.  Author readings are marketing for that author and their works and there have been MANY readings where I&#039;ve picked up several books by an author.  These events seem to be great money makers and are often sold out, so I&#039;m thinking that they&#039;d rather have the Sara Vowell&#039;s of the world come under their wing and not Wordstock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your behind the scenes insights. The ultimately frustrating thing is that a large scale book festival could be a real hit in Portland, but I don&#039;t think the way that Wordstock is going that it will fulfill that promise.  The current show seems to have too many 800lb gorillas with Widen + Kennedy, Powell&#039;s and Target all seeming to hold a different piece of the reigns of the show.  I also get the impression that Powell&#039;s isn&#039;t necessarily interested in seeing Wordstock take off, as in some way it competes with their own efforts which they do year round. </p>
<p>The trend with Powells has been towards big author events where you have to buy a full price hard cover book to be able to hear an author read.  I&#039;ve never paid to hear an author read and never plan to.  Author readings are marketing for that author and their works and there have been MANY readings where I&#039;ve picked up several books by an author.  These events seem to be great money makers and are often sold out, so I&#039;m thinking that they&#039;d rather have the Sara Vowell&#039;s of the world come under their wing and not Wordstock.</p>
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		<title>By: Portland is a small town.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portland is a small town.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an author involved in this year&#039;s Wordstock, the problems were far deeper than the ones you correctly identified on the floor. At the last minute, authors were flaking out and the organizers were so overwhelmed that production responsibilities were shoved off on moderators of panels without their permission or knowledge. I moderated a panel and was asked to contact my authors to determine if they needed AV equipment, but the organizers were thoughtful enough to ask the panel members to come up with a list of questions for me to ask. Perhaps because I wasn&#039;t moderator enough to come up with a few on my own? They also missed inviting several top name authors simply because the organizers, it was my impression, didn&#039;t even know what top authors were near and available. 

The introductions were written by the Wordstock staff and those who introduced authors had no knowledge when they agreed that this would be the case. A few days before the event, those introducing were basically told they were simply a warm body who would read something about COWs and Wordstock&#039;s stilted, pre-crafted introduction. And when people introducing began to flake -- what writer wants to read that schlock?-- they frantic organizers sent emails saying that very thing -- people are flaking!!! Will you introduce someone???

The production was poor and the organizers were overwhelmed. Combine that with the fact that book industry trade shows like BEA are so far superior to these little city festivals and those in the industry are left wondering, why bother? I know that as a professional author and publishing-industry reporter, I&#039;d far rather spend my time and energy at BEA than I would at these silly festivals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an author involved in this year&#039;s Wordstock, the problems were far deeper than the ones you correctly identified on the floor. At the last minute, authors were flaking out and the organizers were so overwhelmed that production responsibilities were shoved off on moderators of panels without their permission or knowledge. I moderated a panel and was asked to contact my authors to determine if they needed AV equipment, but the organizers were thoughtful enough to ask the panel members to come up with a list of questions for me to ask. Perhaps because I wasn&#039;t moderator enough to come up with a few on my own? They also missed inviting several top name authors simply because the organizers, it was my impression, didn&#039;t even know what top authors were near and available. </p>
<p>The introductions were written by the Wordstock staff and those who introduced authors had no knowledge when they agreed that this would be the case. A few days before the event, those introducing were basically told they were simply a warm body who would read something about COWs and Wordstock&#039;s stilted, pre-crafted introduction. And when people introducing began to flake &#8212; what writer wants to read that schlock?&#8211; they frantic organizers sent emails saying that very thing &#8212; people are flaking!!! Will you introduce someone???</p>
<p>The production was poor and the organizers were overwhelmed. Combine that with the fact that book industry trade shows like BEA are so far superior to these little city festivals and those in the industry are left wondering, why bother? I know that as a professional author and publishing-industry reporter, I&#039;d far rather spend my time and energy at BEA than I would at these silly festivals.</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
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		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the main branch of the Multnomah County Library yesterday. There was a very large number of people there checking out some kind of &quot;Keep Portland Weird&quot; summit. Maybe a lot of those people blew off Wordstock. 

I&#039;ve been to the Convention Center a few times and I always find the space to be sucky. But I guess Wordstock is more than the book fair. There are a lot of things going on out in the community. Perhaps people are showing up for those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the main branch of the Multnomah County Library yesterday. There was a very large number of people there checking out some kind of &#034;Keep Portland Weird&#034; summit. Maybe a lot of those people blew off Wordstock. </p>
<p>I&#039;ve been to the Convention Center a few times and I always find the space to be sucky. But I guess Wordstock is more than the book fair. There are a lot of things going on out in the community. Perhaps people are showing up for those.</p>
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